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这个半兽人有两种意思，orc和half orc，台湾就是把orc翻译做“半兽人”，而我们大陆就一律叫兽人，而half orc，在魔戒的背景中是混血兽人，也就是人类与兽人的混血种，才被译作“半兽人”，台湾如何翻译这个词不甚清楚
强兽人，也就是Uruk-hai，这个词是黑暗语，意思本身就是“兽人”，台湾的朱学恒是用意译翻译为“强兽人”，是因为这个族群确实比普通普通兽人更强壮更高大
Uruk-hai在魔戒原著中的来历一直就不是很“含糊”，而是根本就没有提到，但是可以从树须等人的暗示中得出——这是一个由萨茹曼将兽人和人类的混血种改进而来的种群，资料如下
Crossbreeding with Men
Following Treebeard's speculative statements, some readers have questioned whether Saruman's Uruk-hai at least, and all Uruk-hai at most, were bred by crossbreeding with Men. The book does not directly state this, though it heavily hints at it.
Other forces in Saruman's armies, and under his command in the Shire, definitely appear to have been hybrids, though these individuals, called "half-orcs" and "goblin-men" in The Two Towers, were as tall as Men and are never described simply as Orcs, as the Uruk-hai frequently are, and an account of the first Battle of the Fords of Isen in Unfinished Tales (part of Tolkien's hitherto unpublished writings) apparently treats Uruk-hai and "orc-men" separately.
A relevant passage in Morgoth's Ring (also part of Tolkien's hitherto unpublished writings) states that some Orcs at least were derived from Mannish stock.
"Finally, there is a cogent point, though horrible to relate. It became clear in time that undoubted Men could under the domination of Morgoth or his agents in a few generations be reduced almost to the Orc-level of mind and habits; and then they would or could be made to mate with Orcs producing new breeds, often larger and more cunning. There is no doubt that long afterwards, in the Third Age, Saruman rediscovered this, or learned of it in lore, and in his lust for mastery committed this, his wickedest deed: the interbreeding of Orcs and Men, producing both Men-orcs large and cunning, and Orc-men treacherous and vile." (Morgoth's Ring, "Myths Transformed" - Text X)
Given that "Orc-men" and "Men-orcs" are treated as distinct types of hybrids, and that "orc-men" are differentiated from Uruk-hai in Unfinished Tales, some then assume that the "Men-orcs large and cunning" are the Uruk-hai, at least those of Saruman. However, there is nothing in the quote itself that states that the term "Men-orcs" specifically applies to Uruk-hai.
Robert Foster's The Complete Guide to Middle-earth makes no references to Uruk-hai as the results of crossbreeding since the issue hinges on material unpublished when his book was written.
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关于三楼那位的意见
半兽人的意思您看懂了么？半兽人这里是说的half orc不是orc，orc自然是一个独立的种族，但half orc不是，你那个人马例子让人无奈，南欧神话的生物与北欧神话背景的魔戒来比有可比性？
强兽人身前是精灵，ORZ，你看了那篇“兽人的起源是人类”么？
http://www.cndkc.net/bbs/read-htm-tid-4085.html
电影当中强兽人那种从土里面繁育的模式完全得不到原著资料的支持，仅仅是导演的发挥而已，这个能用来解释什么问题，萨茹曼的力量还没有强大到创造新的种族，即便索隆本人也不行
orc,也就是所谓半兽人，这是台湾的翻译法，虽然没有错，但我们不这样用这个词 ，半兽人更多的人会用来描述兽人和人类的混血种吧
在魔戒电影中从泥土中生出来的是强兽人Uruk-hai，这个种类和orc不同，而且电影的处理手法也没有得到原著资料支持
魔戒原著中的ocs的出生方式和人类，精灵没有区别，都是怀胎生产，但孕期不详
详细可以看龙骑士城堡的文章——
兽人的起源是人类
半兽人
Little is known for certain of the beginnings of the Orcs, the footsoldiers of the Enemy. It is said that they were in origin corrupted Elves captured by Melkor before the beginning of the First Age. In appearance, Orcs were squat, swarthy creatures. Most of them preferred the darkness, being blinded by the light of the Sun, but the kinds bred later in the Third Age such as the Uruk-hai could endure the daylight.
强兽人
The great soldier-Orcs that first appeared in the late Third Age; they were larger and stronger than their forebears, and could withstand the light of the Sun.
他们本质上都是半兽人，强兽人是半兽人经过邪恶巫师萨鲁曼改造后的半兽人，比一般半兽人强壮，攻击力高。类似经过基因改造。
星，光，大，人，真是让我感动！！！！！
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